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Madeleine Thien joins Deborah Treisman to read and discuss âThe Cafeteria in the Evening and a Pool in the Rain,â by Yoko Ogawa, translated from the Japanese by Stephen Snyder, which was published in The New Yorker in 2004. Thienâs books include the novels âDogs at the Perimeterâ and âDo Not Say We Have Nothing,â which won the Governor Generalâs Literary Award and the Scotiabank Giller Prize. dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
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